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Date: Sunday 26th February 2023, 4.30pm
Live on Sky Sports
Venue: Wembley Stadium
Conditions:
Impossible
Programme: £10 - original publicity shots of the cover included
Nick Pope and David de Gea, but both were removed following Pope's
suspension. The publishers claim that no physical copies of the first
design were printed.
Admission: £40 to £150
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black socks - black looks
33 mins A
disputed free kick for a fair challenge on Marcus Rashford by Bruno gave Luke Shaw the opportunity to swing the ball
in from the left, Casemiro becoming the latest opponent to expose our set
piece frailty, heading home from seven yards out in front of the away
contingent. 0-1
Possibly the most optimistic we felt all
game...
39 mins
Wout Weghorst played in
Marcus Rashford on the left hand side of the area and his shot took a
deflection off Sven Botman and looped over Loris Karius and into the net.
Initially deemed a Sven Botman
own goal, within hours an EFL review seemingly prompted by Manchester
United saw it credited instead to Rashford. That was despite the camera view
from behind the goal clearly showing the shot was off-target.
0-2
Half time: United 0 Manchester 2*
Full time: United 0 Manchester 2*
(*Daft, but no worse as Sky's continual billing of this tie as
Manchester United v Newcastle)
Eddie
Howe said:
"I’m pleased with how we played. I thought we were really good
between both boxes. But in the boxes is where games are won and lost, and
today I didn’t think we got the big moments right defensively, and with
the chances we did have, we weren’t clinical enough.
"I thought we were really competitive.
I can't fault the players and what they've given me in this game.
The game is decided on big moments and the free-kick, we've not
defended it well enough, and they are the moments we'll look back on .
"It leaves us with a feeling of
a defeat in a final and that is never nice. We are desperately
disappointed but already for me you look to the future, and you are
desperate to get back here and win a trophy.
"To see the supporters, who
have been absolutely incredible for us this year, disappointed and hurt,
it hurts bad, and the motivation now is to get back here and win them
the trophy they deserve.
"We’ve felt nothing but support & love from the fans all
weekend long. The scenes coming in on the bus were exceptional - my
words don’t even do it justice. We are truly sorry we couldn’t win a trophy for them — but it’s
a big thank you from me.
"It
hurts immensely.
You feel like you have failed. You feel like you have not achieved what you
wanted to, so naturally all the negative sea of emotion hits you, and that’s
how it should be in that moment, I don’t think there is any other way to
feel.
"With defeats, you sometimes you can take positives from it. That is
what I want to do. I’m an optimistic person in difficult moments. That’s
what I have to be in the next few days.
On substitutions:
"Bruno (Guimaraes) twisted his ankle. I think he
did similar, I can’t remember the game, but not too long ago in a
match. He was in a bit of pain. We don’t think it’s serious at
the moment, but let’s wait and see. Sean (Longstaff)
was just a tactical switch, 2-0 down, cup final, I didn’t feel we
had a minute to waste to chase the game, so we brought Alex(ander
Isak).
On the presence of club Chairman Yasir Al-Rumayyan
in the Directors box:
"I think he will have been probably very interested in today as a whole
in terms of the atmosphere and the experience, and I’m sure he’ll be
disappointed to lose, as we all are connected with Newcastle. From
my little embrace with him there when we picked up our medals he was
very positive.”
Debutant Loris
Karius said:
"I
was watching the (Newcastle
versus Liverpool)
game (when Nick Pope was dismissed), obviously, and I didn't
realise, maybe, in the first moment that he (Martin Dubravka) was
cup-tied (for the final). For example in Germany, I think
it's different,
"But then obviously
my phone went off quite a bit, so I knew I would probably be playing
the week after. That wakes you up, obviously, in the first moment. I
know things can change quickly, but from then on, it was just having
"(I was) pretty relaxed (in the run up to this game)
because I didn't really read much or
pay much attention. I just focused on the training to get in a good
rhythm for the game and tried to prepare as well as I could to be
ready myself and then you go into the game with a good feeling, so I didn't really pay much attention to everything that was
going on;
"There's always pressure to perform, but I tried to enjoy
it. It's a cup final, it's Wembley - it doesn't really get better
than this. You have to enjoy these moments and soak it all in, and that's
what I tried to do.
"Five minutes in the first half cost us the game.
In the second half, United defended really well, didn't really give
us many opportunities. They just brought the game home very
well."
Erik ten Hag said:
"You have to celebrate, because it's not business as usual, it's
not a common day, we won a trophy and this trophy means something,
that's the feeling I get here in the UK.
“We have won something, we
have to celebrate that but after that point, you have to keep going,
because, on Wednesday, it’s another game (in
the FA Cup) and it’s a big game. In our perspective, every game is a
big game.
“You can't win when you're not
100%, so we have to do everything to win this game. But this cup can be
the inspiration to give even more, to be even more collective, to have
even more togetherness, to put even more effort in to be even better,
because we can’t be satisfied.
"Yet again this evening, they had the right spirit. It's a very good spirit,
they act as a team and fight, give everything. It was not always the best football, but it was effective. Firstly, you
have to win the first one (trophy).
"We will get a lot of inspiration
from this, but also more confidence that we can do it. We are still in a start to restore Man Utd to where they belong, which is
winning trophies and this is the first one.
"I said before the game, Rafa Varane, Casemiro, David de Gea, they know how
to win trophies. You need such lads on the pitch to point the team, to coach
them, to organise, not only from a tactical prospect but especially
mentally.
"The winning attitude, they have to bring it in the dressing room, in the
team in different situations and they've done that."
Following their appearance in 1976, Newcastle became the sixth sides
to have played in two League Cup Finals and won neither;
alongside Bolton Wanderers, Everton, Southampton, the mackems and
West Ham. No team has ever made a trio of fruitless Final forays,
yet.
NUFC in Cup Finals - all time:
1904/05 Aston Villa lost 0-2 FAC (No scorer)
1905/06 Everton lost 0-1 FAC (No scorer)
1907/08 Wolves lost 1-3 FAC (Jimmy Howie)
1909/10 Barnsley drew 1-1 FAC (Jackie Rutherford)
1909/10 Barnsley won 2-0 FACR (Albert Shepherd 2)
1910/11 Bradford City drew 0-0 FAC (No scorer)
1910/11 Bradford City lost 0-1 FACR (No scorer)
1923/24 Aston Villa won 2-0 FAC (Neil Harris, Stan Seymour)
1931/32 Arsenal won 2-1 FAC (Jack Allen 2)
1950/51 Blackpool won 2-0 FAC (Jackie Milburn 2)
1951/52 Arsenal won 1-0 FAC (George Robledo)
1954/55 Manchester City won 3-1 FAC (Jackie Milburn, Bobby Mitchell,
George Hannah)
1968/69 Ujpest Dozsa ICFC 1L won 3-0 (Bobby Moncur 2, Jimmy Scott)
1968/69 Ujpest Dozsa ICFC 2L won 3-2 (Bobby Moncur, Benny Arentoft, Alan
Foggon)
1973/74 Liverpool lost 0-3 FAC (No scorer)
1975/76 Manchester City lost 1-2 LC (Alan Gowling)
1997/98 Arsenal lost 0-2 FAC (No scorer)
1998/99 Manchester United lost 0-2 FAC (No scorer)
2022/23 Manchester United lost 0-2 LC (No scorer)
(NB: Charity Shield fixtures deliberately omitted)
NUFC at Wembley - all-time:
This was the sixteenth time that Newcastle have taken to the
field at the national stadium:
(Match scoring sequence appears in brackets - we've never led at half time
here)
1923/24 Aston Villa won 2-0 FACF (0-0 HT, 1-0, 2-0)
1931/32 Arsenal won 2-1 FACF (0-1, 1-1 HT, 2-1)
1950/51 Blackpool won 2-0 FACF (0-0 HT, 1-0, 2-0)
1951/52 Arsenal won 1-0 FACF (0-0 HT, 1-0)
1954/55 Manchester City won 3-1 FACF (1-0, 1-1 HT, 2-1, 3-1)
1973/74 Liverpool lost 0-3 FACF (0-0 HT, 0-1, 0-2, 0-3)
1975/76 Manchester City lost 1-2 LCF (0-1, 1-1 HT, 1-2)
1987/88 Liverpool drew 0-0 (won 1-0 on pens) MCT (0-0 HT, 0-0)
1987/88 Tranmere Rovers lost 0-2 MCT (0-2 HT, 0-2)
1996/97 Manchester United lost 0-4 CS (0-1, 0-2 HT, 0-3, 0-4)
1997/98 Arsenal lost 0-2 FACF (0-1 HT, 0-2)
1998/99 Manchester United lost 0-2 FACF (0-1 HT, 0-2)
1999/00 Chelsea lost 1-2 FACSF (0-1 HT, 1-1, 1-2)
2017/18 Spurs lost 0-1 PL (0-0 HT, 0-1)
2018/19 Spurs lost 0-1 PL (0-0 HT, 0-1)
2022/23 Manchester United lost 0-2 LCF (0-1, 0-2 HT, 0-2)
This was the fourth time that these two sides have clashed in
the League Cup:
1976/77 lost 2-7 (a) Irving Nattrass, Mickey Burns
1994/95 won 2-0 (h) Philippe Albert, Paul Kitson
2012/13 lost 1-2 (a) Papiss Cisse
2022/23 lost 0-2 (n) No scorer
NUFC v MUFC last 10 meetings:
2022/23 lost 0-2 (n) LC (No scorer)
2022/23 drew 0-0 (a) PL (No scorer)
2021/22 drew 1-1 (h) PL (Allan Saint-Maximin)
2021/22 lost 1-4 (a) PL (Javier Manquillo)
2020/21 lost 1-3 (a) PL (Allan Saint-Maximin)
2020/21 lost 1-4 (h) PL (OG)
2019/20 lost 1-4 (a) PL (Matty Longstaff)
2019/20 won 1-0 (h) PL (Matty Longstaff)
2018/19 lost 0-2 (h) PL (No scorer)
2018/19 lost 2-3 (a) PL (Kenedy, Yoshinori Muto)
There was a debut for Loris Karius, whose only previous pitch
time for the club was a 45 minute shift against Al-Hilal in the kickabout
staged in Saudi Arabia last December (Mark Gillespie played the other 45
minutes in that game). As was the case that day, he turned out here clad
in what looked like fireman's gauntlets - harking back to Jack
Fairbrother's habit of donning policeman's gloves.
It was two days short of two years since the German-born custodian last
made a competitive senior appearance in his career; playing for Union
Berlin at home to Hoffenheim in the Bundesliga.
(There was one familiar face in front of Karius, both he and Kieran
Trippier having played for Manchester City U23s in 2010. Neither went on
to play a senior competitive game for City).
Karius is the first Magpie to make his competitive debut for Newcastle
in a final, but the second to have done so at in a game of any description
at Wembley Stadium. The first was loan flop Antonio Barreca, who
appeared off the bench in the closing stages of the PL fixture against
Spurs in February 2019. Spurs were temporary tenants following the
demolition of White Hart Lane.
That goalkeeping "situation" in full:
Suspended: Nick Pope began the season in goal, picked up a one
game ban versus Liverpool.
Cup-tied: Martin Dubravka played twice in the LC for MUFC while on
loan earlier this season.
Ineligible: Karl Darlow was loaned to Hull City following the LC
Semi-Final second leg.
Started: Loris Karius signed in September 2022. He had never played
a game until today.
Substitute: Mark Gillespie made all three of his NUFC appearances
in the LC during 2020.
Injured: Jude Smith was the first choice U21 goalkeeper but
currently unfit. He's 19.
Cover: Max Thompson is the current first choice U21 goalkeeper.
He's 18.
Due to the aforesaid two appearances, Martin Dubravka is eligible to
receive a winner's medal, but it's unclear whether he will be offered one
- or accept it. Competition rules allow for 30 medals to be provided to
the winning side, with any additional ones available to be
purchased.
Dubravka is one of 27 players to have featured for the Red Devils during
their six Carabao Cup fixtures and was present at the Final.
PS: Echoing our 1999 FA Cup Final defeat loss
to the same opposition, the Manchester United scorers wore shirts with the
same numbers: 18 (Scholes/Casemiro) and 10 (Sheringham/Rashford).
Steve McClaren was on the MUFC bench for both, having travelled and wide
during the intervening period while his former boss, the Govan Beelzebub was
also inevitably in attendance.
PS: David De Gea kept his 181st clean sheet for the Old
Trafford side in the final, setting a new record for his club and
eclipsing Peter Schmeichel.
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Hello darkness my old friend
Eddie
Howe spoke about
the admiration he'd gained for Newcastle fans as he learnt more
about the club, but that knowledge was expanded in an unwanted
direction during 90 sobering minutes at Wembley on Sunday.
A desperately disappointing Final defeat may have been new territory
for him, but the grim reality of finishing second yet again was only
too familiar to the legions of black and whites at one end of the
ground.
The scoreline replicated our most recent pair of losses here in 1998
and 1999 and the sense of deja vu was genuine as the Magpies again
looked committed but in dire need of inspiration. In truth neither side turned up;
we did everything we could, while they did everything they needed to.
Newcastle opened brightly without
summoning up a genuine scoring opportunity aside from one Allan
Saint-Maximin effort and the first time that their
opponents flexed their muscles, they took the lead.
33 minutes had passed when a disputed free kick gave Luke Shaw the
opportunity to swing the ball into the area from the left flank and
Casemiro headed past debutant 'keeper Loris Karius. Within six minutes the crucial second goal had arrived, as Marcus
Rashford's shot took a
deflection off Sven Botman and looped over and into the net.
And that really was that; a Dan Burn miss, a few scrambles and a
late Joelinton header that barely troubled David de Gea, although substitute Jacob Murphy was unlucky with a shot from
distance in the dying seconds. At the
other end Karius made a couple of decent stops to keep the score
within manageable proportions but while we were never overrun, the
feeling that the opposition could have raised their game on demand
persisted.
Unlike his earlier referee baiting, mild xenophobia and unconvincing
attempt at replicating Fergie's mind games with Rashford's fitness, Erik
ten Hag's post-match comment that you can't win when you're not 100% was
sadly on the mark.
The form book wasn't to be upset and a team who are increasingly failing
to defy gravity and falling to earth were eclipsed by one firmly in the
ascendancy and with that vital momentum. We simply didn't look to have
anything more in the tank (or on the bench), while the other lot were
merely steady and a level above. Look back at the form before our 1998,
1999, 2000 trips here and the Cardiff excursion of 2005 it's all the same,
diminishing. Today's has just come a few months earlier.
The inevitability of this outcome didn't make it any easier to take
though; far from it. Regardless of those "ahead of the
timetable" truisms about us being here, this was a genuine
opportunity to end those decades of underachievement. The good
fortune of successive cup draws this season is mirrored by an
absence of European football and the inconsistency of a clutch of
supposed rivals and betters. None of those things may be to our
advantage next time round.
As part of a travel group with an age range from 9 to 79, there were
conflicting emotions throughout the day. Anticipation and optimism
gave way to more familiar emotions of fear and emptiness. While it
is hopefully the first of many for some, this could be the last time,
quite literally, for others.
It may well better to be here, finishing second, than in Mike
Ashley's don't dare to dream existence but there was remarkably
little solace in that thought standing on a station platform with
the sound of someone else's celebration as a backdrop. Desolation
row indeed.
There is a narrative that in the new world of NUFC these momentous
days will become commonplace and that is a powerful and persuasive
argument, given the quantum leap in our fortunes and aspirations
since October 2021.
For all of the pride and defiance on show here though, the dreams,
the flags and the songs, we left empty-handed. Again. Great times may lie ahead but old habits die hard and we remain
wedded to tales of past days via the exploits of Jackie Milburn, Bob
Moncur, Alan Gowling and Robert Lee.
Some new heroes are still required and for all of the expectation
and effort, no new chapter was written today under the arch that
replaced the twin towers.
The swirl of social media threw up a whole range of comments about
the level of support during the game from the Newcastle fans
present, some making unfavourable comparisons with the noise levels
and liveliness of the usual 3,000 or who turn up on the road in the
Premier League.
Without descending to the talkSPORT heated debate level, there's
merit in that and for some folk there was an element of bucket
list/day tripper to the day while other more committed or lively
followers were elsewhere.
What seems logical to us though is that this was a home
crowd transplanted from SJP to Wembley with all of the shortcomings that
entailed, including enthusiastic flag waving and a drop off in vocal
support if there's nothing tangible on the pitch to cheer.
If nothing else, being two goals down at half time at least didn't produce
any booing that we heard, although there were undoubtedly some that never
returned to their seats after half time. Now that is mental but
commonplace every other week away from home, regardless of what some might
say.
As for the lot at the other end, many timed their entrance impeccably
for the teams appearing, spent the afternoon piping on about Alan
Shearer and the Glazers as their mega money purchases did their stuff
and then nonchalantly sauntered away. It's just jealously, as it all
seems so bastard easy.
They even held the (free) scarves aloft in "You'll Never Walk
Alone" fashion at one point - something that would once have
been unimaginable given the loathing of all things Anfield-related.
An intrusion of football is probably overdue at this point and we're not
alone in expressing concern
over Callum Wilson's lack of impact since the World Cup. If this really is
him in peak condition, then we're in bother. Out of sorts doesn't cover
it.
With Almiron reverting to being a mere mortal and our set pieces still no
threat whatsoever, a recalibration is required. The introduction of
Alexander Isak may not have improved our scoring ratio, but it at least
upped the tempo and his running with the ball will unsettle inferior
sides.
Similarly the contents of the bench don't inspire, but like the clutch of
players out on loan are on borrowed time as we try to shake off the
baggage of previous regimes. This remains a considerable work in progress,
the integration of Anthony Gordon into the side a priority before the next
round of transfer to'ing and fro'ing and a decision to be made at left
back now the hype has died down.
On that subject we'd cheerfully wave goodbye to duplicitous Dubravka and
retain Karius and no, we don't regret for one moment the departures of
Jonjo Shelvey and Chris Wood to balance the books. Neither would have
altered the outcome today.
Biffa
PS: Without descending into maudlin sentimentality, it's
difficult to take part in a showpiece game like this
without reflecting on the absence of fellow travellers. Suffice it to
say that regardless of whether they lived to a ripe old age or were
taken too soon, a thought was spared for them today and a glass was
raised. They are not forgotten and our day will come. Surely.
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