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Date: Sunday 5th December 2010,
1.30pm. Live on Sky
Venue: The Hawthorns
Conditions: unwittingly cataclysmic
Admission: £25
Programme:
£3
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West Bromwich Albion |
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Newcastle United |
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32 mins Brunt was half-heartedly
challenged by Gutierrez on the edge of our area and the ball fell to Tchoyi
who cut inside and curled a decent shot beyond Krul into the Smethwick end
goal. 0-1
Half time:
Baggies 1 Magpies 0
71 mins Guthrie lost the ball in the centre circle after losing his
footing and Odemwingie ran clear towards Tim Krul. Taylor got close to the
striker but was unable to get a telling challenge in as a low shot rolled
under Krul and inside the far post.
0-2
89 mins A
ball forward to Odemwingie saw Campbell stand still with his arm in the air
while Enrique played the striker onside by a good five yards. Krul came out
but the Baggies man rounded him and Enrique could only help the ball in as
he slid on the line attempting to clear.
0-3
90 mins Simpson swung
over a decent cross that Carroll appeared to handle before hitting a shot
that Carson blocked but Peter Lovenkrands reacted first to prod the ball home.
1-3
Full time: Baggies 3 Magpies 1
Chris Hughton said:
"We've had a meeting with the players. We
weren't good enough in enough departments and that's why I've been so long. Some of it is about getting answers.
Some of it's about venting some of your anger.
"What you want to do after a game like this is get certain things off your chest. We haven't been good today...if
we are in the changing room for quite some time afterwards it is always very
much a team discussion.
"You are always pleased with it though because it is what you want to be able to do is put this defeat behind you as
quickly as possible.
"We weren't good enough today, we made fundamental mistakes for the goals, it was probably 35 minutes into that first half before we got a decent
period of play where I thought we were good enough on the ball.
"What we were able to do, we were able to restrict their goalscoring
opportunities but we added to our own downfall on all three goals.
"What these do, they play a system and they've got very good
footballers in that system and you know that there are going to be periods of
the game where you are going to have to concede that they will have possession
of the ball.
"But you need to have a good enough shape that can cope with that, and
that means going through periods where you restrict the opportunities they
have but you then take your chances.
"We had chances, the game became an open game, we could have had
goals but at that stage they had already scored two goals and had already had
the lion's share of possession, particularly in the first half.
"We're on the back of two away defeats where we've conceded goals, it hadn't been like us to concede the type of goals that we
have but we have got to make sure we learn from this one. If there was an example of how unforgiving this league is then it is
today and we have got to make sure we learn from that."
Roberto Di Matteo
said:
I thought that we played very
well today from the start, we scored some great goals as well and we controlled
the game the majority of the time. We had a little spell in the second half
where Newcastle put us a little under pressure but I think we defended that
quite well and we scored the third towards the end and I think that sealed the
game.
"We pressed them quite high up the pitch, never let them settle in and
recovered possession quite often. I thought the first goal was an
excellent goal, the second came from pressing, and the third one as well.
"We're trying to learn to be in the Barclay's Premier League and we just
keep it going, game by game. We've got a great game against Aston Villa
next weekend, a derby, which hopefully we can go into with a lot of
confidence."
Mags @ Baggies - last 20:
2010/11 Lost 1-3 Lovenkrands
2009/10 Lost 2-4 Carroll 2 (FAC)
2009/10 Drew 1-1 Duff
2008/09 Won 3-2 Duff, Lovenkrands, S.Taylor
2005/06 Won 3-0 Owen 2, Shearer
2004/05 Drew 0-0
2002/03 Drew 2-2 Jenas, Viana
1990/01 Drew 1-1 Quinn
1989/90 Won 5-1 OG, Brazil, Brock, McGhee, O'Brien
1985/86 Drew 1-1 Wharton
1984/85 Lost 1-2 Baird
1977/78 Lost 0-2
1976/77 Drew 1-1 Barrowclough
1973/74 Won 3-0 Tudor, Macdonald, Barrowclough (FAC)
1972/73 Won 3-2 Tudor 2, Smith
1972/73 Lost 1-2 Hibbitt (TC)
1971/72 Won 3-0 Macdonald 2, Busby
1970/71 Won 2-1 Dyson, OG
1969/70 Drew 2-2 Dyson, Robson
1968/69 Lost 1-5 Robson
Full record v West Brom:
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P
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W
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D
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L
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F
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A
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SJP
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54
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28
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12
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14
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113
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75
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TH
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55
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12
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18
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25
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70
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108
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League
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109
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40
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30
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39
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183
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183
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SJP(FA)
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0
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0
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0
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0
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0
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0
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TH
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4
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1
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0
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3
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7
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8
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SJP(LC) |
2
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0
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0
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2
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1
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3
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TH
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0
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0
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0
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0
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0
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0
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Cup
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6
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1
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0
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5
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8
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11
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Tot
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115
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41
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30
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44
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191
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194
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Before today
United's First Division loss here on Boxing Day 1984 was the last time
that Albion had beaten Newcastle in the league, home or away. That was
a run of 17 games (10 wins & 7 draws), although during that
sequence Albion won all three cup meetings between the sides (two in
the League Cup on Tyneside and the FA Cup tie in the Black Country
back in January of this year).
Peter Lovenkrands scored his first Premier League goal of the
season on the ground where he made his first start for United - and
netted his debut strike - in February 2009. And the club even managed
to spell his surname properly on his shirt this time round...
United's "unlucky" blue change strip had another
outing: lost 1-2 at Norwich (FR), won 3-2 at Accrington (LC), lost 1-5
at Bolton (PL), lost 1-3 at West Brom (PL).
A poor way for Sol Campbell to make his 500th Premier League
appearance. He's fourth in the all-time PL outings list, behind
Gary Speed (535), Ryan Gigggs (555) and David James (573.) Sol's
nearest challenger is Emile Heskey (475).
Others with over 400 appearances including some in our colours include
Alan Shearer (441), Andy Cole (414), Nicky Butt (411) and Shay Given
(406).
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Waffle |
I left this one with the feeling that I'd just seen a relegation performance
and unfortunately for us, it wasn't from the team wearing stripes.
The side that last won here in the Premier League was the one that got
relegated and although we were far from impressive that day, the 3-2 victory on
the afternoon after Joe Kinnear had his heart-attack showed far more spirit,
cohesion and quality than this season's showing.
Extrapolating that any further than the journey home is probably a fruitless
exercise, given this season's unpredictability, but there were worrying signs
that early season optimism and team togetherness were starting to wear a little
thin.
England's Andy Carroll was given little to work with but he seemed to be
knocked off his stride by some early assaults and he and Shola never looked
dangerous and working on different wavelengths. Add to that, some poor quality
flank play, midfield sloppiness and a wretched performance from Sol Campbell
and defeat always looked likely.
But our generosity meant that Christmas came early for Roberto Di Matteo's Baggies,
as they were gift-wrapped three goals without having to play particularly well
and they'll probably not find three points easier to come by all season.
An awful first half performance saw United go in at the break a goal behind
after Jonas Gutierrez made the weakest of challenges and Cameroonian Somen Tchoyi was
given all the time in the world to steady himself and curl the ball past Tim
Krul in the 32nd minute.
The goal had been coming, with United struggling to get beyond the halfway line defending poorly as a team and
showing an alarming disinterest in proceedings
Big hoofs forward to Andy Carroll and Shola Ameobi had proved fruitless and at
the back, Sol Campbell looked way off the pace as Chris Brunt and Peter Odemwingie made our midfield look pedestrian and clueless.
The anticipated return of Joey Barton after suspension failed to
materialise due to a groin strain that saw Chris Hughton err on the side of
caution and leave him out.
Already without Kevin Nolan due to injury, United looked to have a soft centre
and lack leadership, Wayne Routledge and Gutierrez marginalised on the flanks
as Albion found time and space to weave some pretty patterns.
Peter Lovenkrands replaced Ameobi after the interval and we started the second
half looking a little brighter. Steven Taylor had a great chance to head
United level but his effort was straight at Scott Carson who saved well.
One run from Gutierrez then ended with a cross cum shot take a
deflection and bobble towards goal before being cleared. And when the winger
powered forward again soon after to reach Campbell's astute through ball,
Carson got a vital touch as Lovenkrands threw himself at the centre.
But any thoughts of a revival ended on 71 minutes, when Danny Guthrie who had been poor all
game lost possession on the halfway line and Odemwingie ran clear to double Albion's lead evading
messrs Campbell and Taylor before placing a low effort beyond Krul.
Guthrie was the stretchered off but the suspicion among the away following was that it
was only his pride that had been hurt in conceding possession so cheaply. However, he was seen to be wearing a protective cast when
United later made their way of out the stadium.
Then it was Campbell's turn to be benevolent, standing in the middle of the
pitch waving forlornly as Odemwingie raced away to make it 0-3 with a minute
left on the clock.
Lovenkrands got a goal back in added time after Carroll had missed from
point-blank range but it was far too little too late and a thoroughly
miserable afternoon ended with United looking more like relegation-fodder than top half prospects.
The defeat saw us slip into the bottom half of the table as The Baggies leapfrogged over us into seventh.
And despite a slight improvement after his half time words of wisdom, the
United manager kept his squad in the dressing for an hour following the final
whistle to conduct an inquest.
And a fat lot of good it did him. Midway through penning this report came the
news that he had been relieved of his duties and once again Newcastle United
were the cause of Sky's Jim White's annoying animation and roving reporter
David Craig could once again pitch up on Barrack Road.
In a city where most of the locals support United, "Craigy"'s initial voxpop
managed to dig out two poshies and an Irishman. No offence intended to the
three wise men offering their reasonable opinions but we're all quick to point
out the lack of Mancunian accents when similar interviews are done outside Old
Trafford.
So we're in turmoil yet again and nonsense is once again being spoken by those
who should know better. In lamenting Hughton's departure Andy Gray trotted out
the "you simply don't sack Sir Bobby Robson" line when comparing the two
dismissals.
Most people felt that Hughton deserved his chance after the fantastic promotion
campaign and we never really argued with that but people have over-egged his
managerial abilities to a staggering extent.
The manager presiding over the pre-season defeat at Leyton Orient was the same
one in charge of the trouncing of Villa and the mackems. However, the playing
squad had been drastically reduced and the collective spirit of those remaining
had been ratcheted up by the senior players remaining. Hughton without doubt
played his part in all that but I'm not sure how much of a leading role he had.
We'll possibly never know.
What I do know is that when Kevin Nolan bellowed at his manager to "f***in'
calm down" when we were 4-0 up against the mackems after Nolan had
misplaced his pass into touch, it revealed a worrying lack of respect. Hughton
may have put on his suit for the game but I'm not sure he was wearing the
trousers....
Having said that, it feels similar to when Allardyce was jettisoned - no real
tears for someone who few believed was ever the right man for the job but we
seem more likely to get relegated having changed manager half way through the
campaign.
Rather than needing a manager with more experience, an owner - or a Chairman - with more experience of running a football
club may actually be the missing ingredient.
Niall MacKenzie
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